Be first with Agendus on the Apple iPhone!

[IXNewt]

Let me put the first bid in to get you thinking about porting Agendus to the Apple iPhone which has just been anounced. It has superb integration of functions but is waiting for a serious meetings and time management tool. Watch it in action here http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/j47d52oo/event/

[gbuergisser]

Hmm. Not sure if anybody will be able to develop anything for the iPhone. See this article (http://www.brighthand.com/default.asp?newsID=12729) about "No Third-Party Applications for the iPhone".

[IXNewt]

A missed opportunity. This gives the others a chance particulary to Palm to stay in the game. A platform with only a handfull of apps will not compete with ones with thousands. We all know what happened to Next Step and OS2! Come on Palm let's see your Linux (smarter) phone! At least we will get Agendus to use on that one.

[gbuergisser]

A missed opportunity. This gives the others a chance particulary to Palm to stay in the game. A platform with only a handfull of apps will not compete with ones with thousands. We all know what happened to Next Step and OS2! Come on Palm let's see your Linux (smarter) phone! At least we will get Agendus to use on that one.

A missed opportunity indeed. But it will certainly be a success nonetheless because the average user does not want to install additional software (would be too difficult anyway - for the average user).

[abruenin]

The situation has changed. Steve Jobs announced an official SDK for the iPhone and the iPod Touch for the beginning of next year (see http://www.apple.com/hotnews/). So will this raise the chances to get Agendus for iPhone?

[6characters]

The situation has changed. Steve Jobs announced an official SDK for the iPhone and the iPod Touch for the beginning of next year (see http://www.apple.com/hotnews/). So will this raise the chances to get Agendus for iPhone?

This new change of direction for Apple will definitely help 3rd party companies. I think we will have to seriously have to reconsider this option.

[abruenin]

This new change of direction for Apple will definitely help 3rd party companies. I think we will have to seriously have to reconsider this option.

Great, consider this:
http://www.electronista.com/articles/07/11/26/iphone.early.sdk/
The SDK seemes to be on the way. I am really curious, what iambic thinks about it.

[bassmasterj]

Greetings All, and Happy New Year,

Anyone have any more recent information on this issue? It seems that the SDK [Apple's] was the long pole in the tent, as it were. Now, I believe, the SDK has been released. Does that mean that IAMBIC is working on Agendus for the iPhone? If so, then I can go ahead and get one (an iPhone). If not, I will continue to use my Treo. Won't be going to the iPhone without Agendus Premium:up: (or Iambic equivalent).

All knowledgeable persons are asked to please advise via this forum.

Thanks and have a SUPER 2008.

rabidmacuser

[adriano]

Hi,

quick update on this -- we are closely following what's happening around the iPhone SDK, which so far has not been released yet, at least not officially, althogh I saw around on the internet an hanful of blogs mentioning some early availability of the SDK.

Thanks,

- Adriano

[Jules3]

Now that it was announced to be coming out, I believe in February, is Agendus and iphone compatibility a real possibility? How long would it take to make the program once the SDK is released (I have no idea, a month, a year). Can't wait!

[adriano]

it's hard to draw timelines or timeframes when we don't know yet how flexible the SDK is, what sort of access Apple will allow to the built-in personal data storages, what sort of certification process (if any) they'll require, etc. We'll keep you posted on this.

- Adriano

[billrush]

The Apple IPhone SDK likely comes out next week. Apple is on tract to have 10 million Iphones by the end of the year. I hope you guys will develop an agendus product for the Iphone. Thanks

[adriano]

quick follow-up on this in case you missed a recent post:

http://www.iampowered.com/archives/2008/03/11/iambic_titles_and_the_iphone_a.php

and here:

http://www.iambic.com/products/iphone/

to be kept in the loop :)

- Adriano

[Zirconiums]

I am following this thread with eager interest. I left Apple in the dust when they dropped my Newton Message Pad platform. I dusted the old thing off a few minutes ago and dialed up my old TimeReporter and ActionNames for nostalgia's sake (MP2000 long since lost its ability to keep accurate time), and then realized that iambic is probably putting together these old favorites for the iphone, now that apple has brought back the platform in a smaller package (well, sort of).

Anyone else there have the MP2000?

Cheers,
Mike

[wonder777]

I too am waiting for an app for the iphone/itouch.
I have never been the same since I gave up my Newton 2001 and went to palm. I just recently have left my Tx behind and the only thing I miss is my trusted Agendus. I have been an owner for a number of years and can't wait for it to hit my new ipod touch. Please hurry!!

[bvmswami]

dear adriano + lamar etc.
greetings. I've been eagerly awaiting to get agendus and trip tracker 4.11 for Iphone 3 G. please let me know when these two titles will be available for iphone 3 G.

rgds martin law
bvms@pamho.net
bvmadhavswami@gmail.com

[silvio]

The onboard PIM of iPhone is crap. As an old Agendus fan I'm still missing your company logo in AppStore.
I know, the SDK did not open the onboard PIM for third party solutions - but any solution including an Agendus with it's own database is better then Apples PIM torso...

[Jim Armstrong]

After years enjoying Agendus for Treo, recently went to the iPhone and am also anxiously awaiting when Agendus will be available for it. Great application, love it, and am investigating short term workarounds. Any update when it might be available?

[adriano]

I'm still missing your company logo in AppStore

not quite there yet with Agendus, but our logo is now in the App Store, thanks to our first app we recently launched on iPhone -- SnappySeeker (http://www.iambic.com/snappyseeker/iphone/).

http://www.iambic.com/snappyseeker/iphone/en/images/SnappySeekeriPhonemain.jpg

- Adriano

[magnes]

Look, this is getting a bit ridiculous. How long is this going to take. You guys have been working on this thing for about a year now. I develop software for video and film, I hire people to get the job done in a timely fashion. You people seem to be taking your sweet %&$#@ time of things over there and losing customers or just pissing them off by making us wait. Get off your @## and get this thing done already. My PATIENCE IS GETTING THIN!!!!:mad::mad:

MAGNES

[silvio]

... I hire people to get the job done in a timely fashion. You people seem to be taking your sweet %&$#@ time of things over there and losing customers or just pissing them off by making us wait.
:down: No - I'm pissed of if I read unqualified contributions like this. Calm down guy.

[Allibama]

Thank you, silvio. It's nice to see that someone has some patience. I'm sure none of the other people "contributing" to this thread have done any reading on the difficulties of getting apps into Apple's store, or the number of developers who have now given up totally on coding for the iPhone because of Apple's peculiar behavior. I'm sure they still haven't noticed that they are so anxious for Agendus to get into the apps store because there is still no other productivity tool like it available for the iPhone - which suggests that it is not just Iambic taking its sweet time. But we have pointed all of this out over and over in multiple threads.

Again, thank you for retaining your perspective, silvio.

[Allibama]

Me again. Just thought I'd share with everyone, this blog post (http://appcubby.com/blog/files/financial_realities.html) by an iPhone developer who really puts it all into perspective. Please read it before wondering where your major apps are.

[silvio]

There is another big issue that makes the development for the iPhone platform incalculable - Apples restrictive approval process.

There is no predictability which applications are going to be rejected by Apple and which applications not.

This article (http://gizmodo.com/5051273/how-apple-picks-which-apps-make-it-to-
the-app-store) shows the dilemma.

It is risky for iambic to spend time and money into the development of Agendus for iPhone as long as Apple could reject it because it "duplicates functionality" or for other inanities.

I love the iPhone platform but I see that after one year AppStore existence only some big game developers start with publishing complex applications.

Apples behaviour in the approval process is the main reason for the flood of flashlight applications (and other useless nonsens) and the absence of commercial relevant serious software.

Therefore I don't expect that iambic publishes Agendus for iPhone.

Apple must clarify the conditions - they must bring predictability into the AppStore approval process, otherwise developing for iPhone is like playing in a casino.

[lolongan]

SmartTime+ from Left Coast Logic has been released some days ago. Although it does not meet yet my expectations, it is a big step forward in a good direction. And WebIs already shows on their forum a movie of Pocket Informant which is very promising (and btw, they also take time to answer to all questions posted). Only Iambic leaves us completely in the dark. The frustration of magnes is quite understandable.

[Allibama]

SmartTime+ doesn't meet expectations. As for the difference between WebIs teasing customers with video and Iambic simply saying it's coming - it's the difference between the pregnancy where you have a sonogram and find out the sex of the baby, and the pregnancy where it's a surprise. The decision is up to the parent, er development team.

[magician]

Me again. Just thought I'd share with everyone, this blog post (http://appcubby.com/blog/files/financial_realities.html) by an iPhone developer who really puts it all into perspective. Please read it before wondering where your major apps are.
I was a big fan back in the day when I carried a Palm. A few years ago my company gave me a Dash and I still bought your cross-grade despite the device limitations.

Now that I'm using an iPhone I'm hoping to soon see a useful version of agendus. And heck, if Chapura can make it through the app store gauntlet, why can't you?

[rsgmoose]

SmartTime+ from Left Coast Logic has been released some days ago. Although it does not meet yet my expectations, it is a big step forward in a good direction. And WebIs already shows on their forum a movie of Pocket Informant which is very promising (and btw, they also take time to answer to all questions posted). Only Iambic leaves us completely in the dark. The frustration of magnes is quite understandable.

I've been monitoring the WEBIS forum and haven't seen a video yet of PI for iPhone? Please provide a link as maybe I don't see it.

Alex is trying to get the program out by MacWorld which is the end of next week and in all fairness to PI and Agenda - Apple's not opening up the internal databases does not bode well for any developer.

[kbd517]

rsgmoose- ask and ye shall receive :) Posted 12/16/08

http://www.pocketinformant.com/Forums/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=2135

[lolongan]

rsgmoose- ask and ye shall receive :) Posted 12/16/08

http://www.pocketinformant.com/Forums/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=2135

No, you, here also ! Definitely, we are on the same quest ! :)
(ivy)

[rsgmoose]

Thanks to both of you (kdb517 and lolongan)....don't know how I missed it. :up:

[magnes]

SmartTime+ doesn't meet expectations. As for the difference between WebIs teasing customers with video and Iambic simply saying it's coming - it's the difference between the pregnancy where you have a sonogram and find out the sex of the baby, and the pregnancy where it's a surprise. The decision is up to the parent, er development team.

OooHHhh, Please Alli, that comment about WebIS is very weak. If these guys come out before you guys with that product I will without question purchase it. Don't get me wrong, I still am an Agendus lover, but you people have been keeping us in the dark and taking to long. If the Apps Store has quality standards just meet those standards. I applaud Apps Store for making sure everyone submitting programs meets their standards and Silvo, :weird: what's up with you man, do you expect Iambic to give you a free program or something? Always expect the best from the company you do business with and never give them a pass for something you PAY FOR!! -

[Silfveroxel]

Whenever someone from Iambic is commenting the Iphone is it always "Due to bad Apple we can not......" "wait for new palm os ......".

Well we are a lot of people who like mac more the PC and Iphone better then palm or blackberry. We also like agendus. I have been in sales more the 25 years in IT industry and I must say that I would have been proud of if we had people knocking on the door asking us to support the platform etc. Iambic has from the beginning been very reluctant to support mac and iphone. Still is it a lot of "problem to get into app store etc"

If a senior person from Iambic would call a senior person from Apple will they solve all this issues as it would be in best interest for both. But you need the will!
I have subscribed to "Be the first to know" etc. Still not a single mail. You might have 10.000 customer sitting and waiting to buy first release and you have no produce any mail saying. "We are currently targeting Feb 09for first release or what ever" The only thing is "how difficult it is the get in" Why are every other company successful? If I was you would I put some internal pressure and start listening on customer and begin to communicate!

[adriano]

ok now I could reply to every single comment in this thread (some of which doesn't make for a plesant readying, although I understand you might not have the complete picture of the industry and that easily leads to frustration and misunderstanding), but -- and correct me if I'm wrong -- what you really want to know is the answer to the question "When is Agendus for iPhone going to be available?"

Question, btw, which we feel happy and honored to hear this often, well short and sweet answer: April 15, 2009.

Stay around for updates -- and should the date change we'll keep you posted. But so far we are optimistic on hitting it.

- Adriano

[Silfveroxel]

Thank you!

I was hoping for a earlier date as I hear december before, but good enough for me to wait. Maybe to early but will Agendus be a layer for ical as agendus is using palm calendar? The reason for asking is to get some hint if mobileme etc in mac world will continue to work. I will promote ical for you and Sun Microsystem where I am had many palm user before but most of them have changed to iphone, so you will get many new customer to Iambic and agendus.


ok now I could reply to every single comment in this thread (some of which doesn't make for a plesant readying, although I understand you might not have the complete picture of the industry and that easily leads to frustration and misunderstanding), but -- and correct me if I'm wrong -- what you really want to know is the answer to the question "When is Agendus for iPhone going to be available?"

Question, btw, which we feel happy and honored to hear this often, well short and sweet answer: April 15, 2009.

Stay around for updates -- and should the date change we'll keep you posted. But so far we are optimistic on hitting it.

- Adriano

[adriano]

Maybe to early but will Agendus be a layer for ical as agendus is using palm calendar?

this is correct. Agendus will read the data present on the iphone and synced there whichever way the user got it there (ical sync, exchange active sync, etc.). This to the extent that Apple allows accessing the native data storages through the iPhone SDK's APIs.

Since on the iPhone there is no task app, Agendus will bring its own task management system.

- Adriano

[rsgmoose]

"When is Agendus for iPhone going to be available?"

Question, btw, which we feel happy and honored to hear this often, well short and sweet answer: April 15, 2009.

Stay around for updates -- and should the date change we'll keep you posted. But so far we are optimistic on hitting it.

- Adriano

I think you've hit most of your target dates when other platforms were requested - such as BB and WM. So Kudos for even stating a futuristic date......I know it was not an easy choice to do so.

I am just wondering if there is some sort of irony here since it is Tax Day?

And of course the next question will be when will you have a version available for the Pre?

I can hear the pundents already bad mouthing Iambic for not having a version available before the Pre is released!!!!

[adriano]

I am just wondering if there is some sort of irony here since it is Tax Day?

hehe no -- it's just that timeframe-wise that is what currently appears rather realistic, and we usually release new apps / major new versions mid week. This year the 15 of April happens to be a Wednesday. Perfect day for a product release ;)


And of course the next question will be when will you have a version available for the Pre?

perhaps we should open up a thread specific to the pre...

[rsgmoose]

perhaps we should open up a thread specific to the pre...


By all means. :)

And post a release date for it that is prior to April 15th. :rolleyes:

Have you seen the SDK for it yet? No need to answer - I'm just being silly. :D

[Fastwalking]

Adriano, I caught your recent interview with TAMSPALM and it made me think about this new "Pre". If all applications will have to "web based", does that mean we won't be able to buy applications? Will we have to acquire a subscription to all software for this device? That would be outrageously expensive and would be a deal breaker for me - slick device or not.

To heck with it, maybe I should just buy the new Treo Pro and use the existing Agendus - this is getting crazy!


Good interview by the way. If anyone missed it find it here:
http://tamspalm.tamoggemon.com/2009/01/16/webos-intro-interview-adriano-chiaretta-iambic/

[buyology]

Where is agendus for iphone/itouch??? What a heck? The iphone calendar and itunes suck big time...

[Silfveroxel]

I have the same issue and waited long time! It will be ready for us 15/4

Where is agendus for iphone/itouch??? What a heck? The iphone calendar and itunes suck big time...

[climbthemtns]

I've used Agendus for years and very excited to have it on my iphone.
Will I be able to port my Agendus PC data to the Mac platform?

Thanks.

[adriano]

Will I be able to port my Agendus PC data to the Mac platform?

yes, there should be no problem. Depending on what PIM you use on the desktop you might have to use certain steps rather than others, but in general transferring PIM data between Mac and PCs is a rather documented process.

Good interview by the way.

thanks! :)

- Adriano

[Jim Armstrong]

Is the 4/15 the full product or beta version release date?

[facrowe]

Like all of you, I'm looking forward to Agendus for iPhone. I miss the mobile CRM advantages.

However, I still use agendus for outlook. The agendus interface in outlook is much easier to work with than the outlook and I get to use my icons and templates. When syncing with iPhone the everything syncs perfectly. I use untimed appointments to schedule my to-do's on any given day. That way they will show up in the today view on iPhone.

This is not a substitute for for having agendus on the phone. But I will try to be patient until Agendus for iPhone is released.

[pdadds]

-- what you really want to know is the answer to the question "When is Agendus for iPhone going to be available?"

Question, btw, which we feel happy and honored to hear this often, well short and sweet answer: April 15, 2009.

- Adriano


This is great to hear! I truly miss Agendus for Palm OS, which I used since version 2, and have not quite bonded with Agendus for BlackBerry. I'm looking forward to working with this on my iPod Touch.

[Fastwalking]

This is great to hear! I truly miss Agendus for Palm OS, which I used since version 2, and have not quite bonded with Agendus for BlackBerry. I'm looking forward to working with this on my iPod Touch.


Any teaser screenshots we could see?

[powerupgroup]

Great to hear that Iambic will be releasing Agendus for the iPhone. As a long time Treo user that converted to the iPhone yesterday, the calendar function is woefully inadeqaute and I would be delighted to offer my services as an alpha or beta tester. Even a few bugs would be way better than what is resident on the iPhone now.

Keep those great products rolling. And, let me know if I can be of service as a beta tester... the sooner the better!!!

Thanks, Ken
Power Up Group

[sahnefranz]

Hi Community,
first time here and i am happy that Agendus will be also on the IPhone, because I was happy with Agendus on Palm and Windows Mobile, but now i am on IPhone.
So one important question: actual IPhone do not synchronize memos with Outlook/Exchange and even there is no task application.:( Will Agendus be able to have a memo and a task application which both synchronize with Outlook/Exchange?:confused:

thanks Franz

[adriano]

Hi,

thanks for following-up here (btw it might be better to open up a new threads with specific questions rather than keeping posting up on this one, that way questions & related answers would be easier to follow by everyone browsing this board).

In regards to tasks -- Agendus will carry its own task management implementation, as of if/what/where it will sync with, we are evaluating options. It might be that as a first iteration will store tasks locally only, and afterwards we'll add up syncing support.

In regards to beta testers -- as we'll get closer to have a product ready to beta we'll post up a thread here asking for ppl willing to join the beta program.

- Adriano

[witlin]

... In regards to tasks -- Agendus will carry its own task management implementation, as of if/what/where it will sync with, we are evaluating options. It might be that as a first iteration will store tasks locally only, and afterwards we'll add up syncing support.
...

Hi Adriano!

Thanks for still caring about the rest of us, in desperate need of a working PIM solution.
Communication so far could probably have been a little better but that has been discussed to death already, also I'm glad iambic is still trying to get Agendus on the road, despite the few rocks in their way.
What I was wondering, already back while still using a Palm, even more today is, don't you guys get fed up by the limitations other people enforce on you?

The Palm desktop underneath, Outlook underneath, now Apple and it's ridiculous SDK restrictions, and last but not least the limits of Apple's own PIM solution so far (iCal, Address, Book, still no Tasks or Memos on the horizon).
I mean I understand that it's probably easier to rely on underlying technology and especially on sync functionality. But don't you think that as it matured to an unparalelled product, Agendus would deserve it's own independent Desktop app and sync? It works quite well for cultered code and their "Things" for iPhone (USD10) and Mac (USD50), and this is just a todo manager.
Maybe Agendus could sync over WiFi, like some other apps (not PIMs) do. Or piggyback on the Exchange protocoll, maybe one of the Open Source Exchange protocolls like openXchange (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-Xchange).

Just a suggestion.

All the best

[Fastwalking]

Hello Adriano,

I am seriously considering the Palm Treo Pro but first I need to know if there is a compatible version of Agendus I could run on it. If not, I won’t even consider it - but if there is, it might make an excellent tool for getting my business back on track, iPhone just does not have it - it’s all games and glitter but no guts. As I patiently (?) wait for Agendus on the iphone, I realize the limitations on it will be such that it won’t be like the Agendus I knew and loved on my old Treo. Truly there is no product out there that does what Agendus does and I really need its functionality. So, if there is a compatible version for Treo Pro, please let me know.

Thanks

[Allibama]

Not sure why you posted it in this thread, Fastwalking, but Agendus for ppc definitely works on the Treo Pro.

[Fastwalking]

Not sure why you posted it in this thread, Fastwalking, but Agendus for ppc definitely works on the Treo Pro.

Sorry, this is the only thread I have been following - thanks for the links.

[Fastwalking]

FYI: I just got an email - Pocket Informant for iPhone has been submitted to Apple.

So you can see the competition,

http://www.pocketinformant.com/products_info.php?p_id=pocketinformant_iphone

According to their information, they have been working on their software for more than a year. Its no Agendus, but interesting.

[Silfveroxel]

Thanks! I have been waiting for a PIM for Iphone and this application would work, but I hope agendus will come 15/4 as promised and also have support for the icons. With No icons will it be maybe more or less similar


FYI: I just got an email - Pocket Informant for iPhone has been submitted to Apple.

So you can see the competition,

http://www.pocketinformant.com/products_info.php?p_id=pocketinformant_iphone

According to their information, they have been working on their software for more than a year. Its no Agendus, but interesting.

[Fastwalking]

Wow.....bummer..........So I hear there is a new SDK coming out March 17........that’s like one month before Agendus........does that mean Agendus won’t be able to take advantage of new functionality? ? (assuming there is any)

[magnes]

NOW THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. I love the short and sweet answer. I will now hold off purchasing WEBIS version until the release of Iambics - Adendus.. Question, is April 15th the day that it will be released to App store for review or the date that the Apps store will have it available?

[rsgmoose]

NOW THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. I love the short and sweet answer. I will now hold off purchasing WEBIS version until the release of Iambics - Adendus.. Question, is April 15th the day that it will be released to App store for review or the date that the Apps store will have it available?

April 15th won't be the Apple store date as Apple never predicts when they will release a program to the store.

[Fastwalking]

Pocket Informant for iPhone is now available on the iphone.

[Fastwalking]

I'm waiting for Agendus - there is no better PIM.

I was wondering with all the new abilities the new SDK affords you, will this help you develop links or contact the on-phone contacs to assist with synching? Im quite excited about the new features Apple is giving iphone with 3.0. The only thing still missing is a decent PIM.

Can you also tell me if we are still on for April 15?

[Jim Armstrong]

Adriano;
Any update re targeted 4/15 release date especially with recent 3.0 announcement? Is 4/15 still on track when iambic will release or is it the date for App Store availability? Any update regarding beta release?

[adriano]

Hi!,

Is 4/15 still on track when iambic will release or is it the date for App Store availability? Any update regarding beta release?

so far we are on track -- hit some hiccup related to retrieving over-the-air weather forecast but now things are moving along.

In regards to beta -- not sure at this time if we'll have a beta run before the release.

- Adriano

[witlin]

Thanks for keeping us up to date, Adriano!
I also appreciate you guys and gals(?) focusing on the final touches of Agendus in these last weeks.
But I would still very much like an answer to a question I posted on the previous page:

Hi Adriano!

Thanks for still caring about the rest of us, in desperate need of a working PIM solution.
Communication so far could probably have been a little better but that has been discussed to death already, also I'm glad iambic is still trying to get Agendus on the road, despite the few rocks in their way.
What I was wondering, already back while still using a Palm, even more today is, don't you guys get fed up by the limitations other people enforce on you?

The Palm desktop underneath, Outlook underneath, now Apple and it's ridiculous SDK restrictions, and last but not least the limits of Apple's own PIM solution so far (iCal, Address, Book, still no Tasks or Memos on the horizon).
I mean I understand that it's probably easier to rely on underlying technology and especially on sync functionality. But don't you think that as it matured to an unparalelled product, Agendus would deserve it's own independent Desktop app and sync? It works quite well for cultered code and their "Things" for iPhone (USD10) and Mac (USD50), and this is just a todo manager.
Maybe Agendus could sync over WiFi, like some other apps (not PIMs) do. Or piggyback on the Exchange protocoll, maybe one of the Open Source Exchange protocolls like openXchange (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-Xchange).

Just a suggestion.

All the best

[Allibama]

Depending on what you're syncing with, you might try the method several of us (via a Windows Mobile thread) are now doing, which is to rely on the Palm desktop for conduits, use the version of Agendus for Palm desktop as a stand alone pim manager on the desktop, and sync OTA using CompanionLink. For the details, see this (http://justanothergeeksite.com/wordpress/2009/03/dumping-outlook-returning-to-the-palm-desktop/).

[witlin]

Thanks Alli for getting back to me, but I believe you misunderstood what I meant.
I'm not looking for a Windows Mobile Solution, that's why I posted here in the iPhone thread. And the suggestion I was making, pointed more in the "Agendus finally would need to be truly standalone" direction.

I believe, that freeing your product from the limiting factors (Outlook, Palm Desktop, iCal/Address book etc.etc.) would greatly enhance the enduser experience, as you won't have to take into consideration what limitations others impose on you (no true platform independence for example, sync issues being another one).
Agendus could finally be what it deserved to be long ago:
I know this might be a radically different approach, but this way only iambic's imagination and the sky would be the limit here :)

That merely being my personal conclusion, after checking back with iambic's different Agendus variants over the years.
No more "we can't do this and that, because Outlook doesn't allow for this"
No more "sync problems are caused by (take your pick) Windows, Mac, Outlook, Palm Desktop, etc.etc"
No more "we have to work around Palm Desktops tight limits with implementing e.g. Icons via a code in the comments/notes field".
No more (I'm sure working forum support you could imagine many many more).
I'm quite suprised that you guys (namely the developers behind Agendus) aren't even more fed up by this then we are.

A clean cut, a truly independent standalone multiplatform desktop app, with it's own independent sync, maybe even to web services, would be immensely high on my wish list. But I suppose it's needless to say that if Agendus for iPhone is merely half of what the Palm one did, I will be on board, no question about it. Although it would have to cut even a few more corners (Apple, iTunes Store, still only being a front-end to existing apps) than before to achieve the same.

I repeat, why aren't you guys fed up with this situation?

All the best

[Allibama]

I did not give a Windows Mobile solution. I gave a platform free wireless solution. The point is I'm using the Palm desktop despite my having a WM device - they clearly do not go together. You could use an iPhone with it as well following my method. Agnedus for Windows Palm desktop is stand alone. It only uses the conduits that come with the Palm desktop for syncing purposes.

[witlin]

Ok, sorry so it was I who obviously misunderstood :)
I will look a little more into this matter, your link and the according thread.

But still this is just a workaround for the question lying at my posting's core, a question, that I feel is essentially aimed a little more towards Adriano.

Cheers

[rsgmoose]

What's the driving force behind a wifi sync? vs on OTA sync? I'm not certain that I'd want a PIM to sync via WIFI and not OTA.

With the Palm Pre apparently going to do some combination of wireless OTA it maybe a viable option to sync to a third party calendar application but for many of the iPhone Agendus version - I sync to Exchange and a Wifi sync will not be of any major benefit. And I think a lot of users sync to Exchange.

I personally have been looking at Pocket Informant - but because it doesn't directly sync to Exchange - I'm not really considering it.

A truly stand alone product on the iPhone - won't work for those business users that must sync to Exchange so I'd rather not see Agendus become a stand alone app.

[witlin]

rsgmoose, Isee your point, but on the Mac, the iTunes->iCal/Addressbook Combo is pretty much standalone, with the option of syncing to Exchange/Outlook. On Windows it's pretty much the same, only that iCal/Addressbook is substituted with Outlook.

My point being, that optionally (checkbox in prefs) including a business standard (Exchange) in a standalone product isn't unheard of, and therefore wouldn't stand in the way of all the other benefits I mentioned (did I mention so far that a platform independent native Agendus App would expand your market to all those Mac, and maybe even a few Linux Users?).

On the other hand I suppose this would mean a huge effort for the programmers, as it would be a clean and radical cut to how Agendus works so far.

[asiadeaf]

yes I agree about sync by wifi, and need use mac address security its like fingerprint of unit.

[rsgmoose]

It would be interesting to know the number of PC vs Mac users of the iPhone.......now I see your point. Thanks for the enlightenment.

[Silfveroxel]

Only 5 days left, but very little noise around agendus for Iphone. Under Iphone on main page is it not mentioned, but a small application like tipper is mentioned coming soon:rolleyes:

No beta? I hope that we will be very pleased to down load a very good version of agendus for Iphone mid next week without the beta struggle. Was Iphone so much better platform then palm that you could skip?

[r.cline]

i've already downloaded pocket informant for IpHone. and am curious how Agendus stacks up.

know of any screens shots of the beta floating around?

thanks

[Allibama]

In the other iPhone thread,Adriano has said that they are a little behind now, and it will be closer to May 1.

[billrush]

Can someone tell me the thread referred to by Allibama in which Adriano says the release date has slipped to May 1?

[Jim Armstrong]

Adriano;
any update from your 3/22 last one which stated around 4/15? Has the Agendus for iPhone release date slipped more toward 5/1? Other date?

[Allibama]

I was mistaken about where I saw it, but Adriano said he would be posting more publicly soon. Stay tuned.

[Serendip]

Here's the link:

http://support.iambic.com/forum/showthread.php?t=37650

Agendus and the Touch/iPhone? It's worth the wait! :D

[bigdog5142]

I certainly hope so...

[Fastwalking]

I was mistaken about where I saw it, but Adriano said he would be posting more publicly soon. Stay tuned.


Just curious but why would he post it in an area where not even you could find it - much less us? And if he said he would be posting more publicly soon, wouldn't today (the datae prescribed last year as the release date) be a pretty good date to do that?

I have to be honest, the communications are terrible - we never know what, if anything, is happening with this product and when there is an annnouncement, its posted where even the other Iambic masters can't find it. I just don't get it. We're not the enemy. I unsubscribed from this forum months ago and I know as much as those who didn't.

So I guess I'll check back again say...May 15 or June 1 or so to see if anything has changed. I'll put it in my "Pocket Informant" on my iphone so I wont miss it.



By the way, what is the pupose of this forum? to keep us posted on changes? news? ..........?

[adriano]

just a quick note here about Agendus for iPhone available on the App Store since about a week, should anyone in this thread having missed it.

http://www.iambic.com/agendus/iphone/

I'm closing this thread since at this point it's sort of obsolete having Agendus been released.

As always for additional feedback, suggestions, etc. please create a new thread on the specific topic.

Thanks!

- Adriano