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walkerl
December 6th, 2001, 09:51 AM
My two favorite applications are AN and Daynotez. Instead of competing with each other, I would like to see some collaboration between the two. Lots of PC software allow you to customize your SW to use the text editor or browser of your choice.
I have already suggested to Natura that when editing a contact associated with a note, the user ought to be able to jump to the contact manager of his/her choice, i.e. AN.
For your part, allow your users the option to use Daynotez for journal entries.
Thanks for listening,
Lloyd
trevor
December 6th, 2001, 10:19 AM
If I can get an e-mail address for the guys at Natura we might be able to do something about that.
walkerl
December 6th, 2001, 10:22 AM
Your my hero! Occasionally I see email from Natura's president. I'll keep my eyes open.
Lloyd
walkerl
December 6th, 2001, 10:30 AM
Bryan Nystrom:
bnystrom@natara.com
Not sure of his position, perhaps president.
Good luck!
Lloyd
ranbarton
December 10th, 2001, 08:30 AM
I have read several post from Bryan on the Yahoo AN forum sugesting that he (and Natara) would be pleased to integrate Daynotez with AN. I am not a user of Daynotez, but this might push me over the brink, and I would love AN even more than I already do. I hope Iambic and Natara do talk and are able to mesh their two fine products.
-Ran
hillardk
January 3rd, 2002, 08:16 PM
Originally posted by walkerl
My two favorite applications are AN and Daynotez. Instead of competing with each other, I would like to see some collaboration between the two. Lots of PC software allow you to customize your SW to use the text editor or browser of your choice.
I have already suggested to Natura that when editing a contact associated with a note, the user ought to be able to jump to the contact manager of his/her choice, i.e. AN.
For your part, allow your users the option to use Daynotez for journal entries.
Thanks for listening,
Lloyd
For anyone who uses Daynotez it does become indispensible for making notes throughout the day. The manner/method it integrates with Outlook is excellent. It would be spectacular if there could be some kind of integration so that one could see in AN that there was a note present for a day in Daynotez. Other sync issues become harder to imagine but I am sure they exist. If priorities dicate simplicity the first suggestion would be a good start.
hillardk
hkahan@post.harvard.edu
airwhale
January 3rd, 2002, 11:09 PM
Originally posted by hillardk
Other sync issues become harder to imagine but I am sure they exist. If priorities dicate simplicity the first suggestion would be a good start.
I would also love to see a nice integration between AN and DayNotez. The way I would like to see it integrated is to have a little "Add to journal" menu choice in the tap-and-hold menu. If it's a meeting, date, time, description and meeting notes could be added to DayNotez. If it's a completed ToDo or Call, only date, description and notes would transfer (as no time exist for these). It sure would save me a bit of typing, for sure.
Also, the ability to choose what program to launch on the "New journal entry" menu choice (and the ability to return to AN after adding the entry manually, perhaps by "Home" silkscreen button) would be neat.
BeeZahGee
January 4th, 2002, 02:43 AM
I too use DayNotez as my journal/note recording app and would love to see some way to integrate access via AND (and vis a versa)
As mentioned earlier in this thread, may be some kind of user pref setting.
nrosser
January 4th, 2002, 12:48 PM
Yes, add me as another requestor. I use these two apps more than any other, and having a tighter integration would be nice.
Albert Rammisch
January 6th, 2002, 01:25 PM
Most important feature to me would be a clean transfer of affected contacts from AN to DayNotez. This modification concerns first of all Natara.
In AN I would like a 'Transfer to DayNotez'-option in the context menu. This would delete the todo or meeting and create a DayNotez-entry.
It would be nice to see DayNoetz-entries in AN with a specific Icon and with the contact in bold.
DayNotez-entries should appear in contact history.
Lot of wishes but the first one is really the most important...
hillardk
January 6th, 2002, 08:14 PM
I think some of these request are missing the point of both apps - DayNotez and AN. The contacts in AN most likely reside in the database for the Palm app. which one can see and change/modify in AN.
The purpose of DayNotez was to provide an app that was not present in the Palm. A place to keep daily notes in on a calendar. An attempt (good one) to provide for the one thing missing in the Palm that one had with a paper Day Timer.
To start keeping contacts appointments ... in DayNotez is a bit beyond what it really does.
What would be most useful is the ability to see in AN that there is a Note for that calendar day via an icon and/or title that could be clicked to take one to the DayNotez app.
Asking for more elaborate thing may just decrease the likelyhood however slim of the two companies working together in my humble opinion.
Hillard
hkahan@post.harvard.edu
airwhale
January 6th, 2002, 10:44 PM
Originally posted by hillardk
To start keeping contacts appointments ... in DayNotez is a bit beyond what it really does.
I use DayNotez among other things for entering time-slips, my billable hours. A meeting with the date, duration, a contact and the associated meeting notes is just what I need to accurately bill him or her for that time. DayNotez is also a great place to store this kind of important information over a longer time than in the datebook. Sometimes I purge my datebook db and then the data is gone unless I manually copy it into DayNotez first. (I don't find the Palm archive very useful.)
If one could take a meeting and "Add to DayNotez" from a context menu, the contact info could be parsed into the corresponing field in DayNotez.
However, since the contact name is already present in the meeting (or todo) description, it should transfer over to the DayNotez entry anyway.
hillardk
January 6th, 2002, 11:14 PM
Am I missing something here?
If you are doing this as a record why is it that you do not use Timeslips from Iambic and the associated software from Sage (Timeslips Pro)?
I still do not understand why some want to customize here for use when more profession and extensive application off a solution.
airwhale
January 7th, 2002, 02:36 AM
Originally posted by hillardk
If you are doing this as a record why is it that you do not use Timeslips from Iambic and the associated software from Sage (Timeslips Pro)?
I still do not understand why some want to customize here for use when more profession and extensive application off a solution.
The "Timeslips" application might well be very good, but I have never tried it. My needs for timeslip recording are quite modest, so I prefer to integrate this into a solution I already have, know and use a lot. The use of templates is great for things like this.
I have them all in a separate DayNotez category, filter them out in the Desktop and I've got a simple but neat report. It's enough for me, and my Palm is quite crammed with software and data as it is. Now, if I could automate the way I enter meetings trough an AN to DN integration, I'd be a happy puppy. I also suggested to Natara that they could facilitate an "import from Datebook" just as they have with ToDo's - that would be another solution I could use.
gstoel
January 7th, 2002, 04:24 AM
I downloaded DayNotez trial and think it is a very powerfull application for what's it meant to do: loggin notes.
How I would like to see the integration with DN & AN is as follows:
- have a button in AN where you can create a new DN entry
- have this DN entry linked to the day (making it possible to see all DN entries) and/or a specific item in the day (e.g. a meeting so you can use it to link to the notes for that meeting)
I think this combines the two very powerfull applications in one nice and integrated matter (that suits me ;) ).
hillardk
January 7th, 2002, 09:04 AM
Your needs are modest!
But you think it appropriate to ask for features from two software companies that would need to develop a working agreement?
Humm
gstoel
January 7th, 2002, 09:12 AM
I always learned from my mama, that if you'll never ask, they'll never know ;)
But to be honest, isn't that the goal of this forum to ask for future functionality. Eventhough some functionality might look odd in one's opinion, it might look usefull in other's. We all have different needs and different habits.
I think only iAmbic (and Natara in this case) is the one who can reply to say if a working agreement is applicable and valuable to their product.
BTW: based on other posts from the AN mailing list, it seems that both Natara and Iambic are interested in discussing the option....
Regards,
Geoffrey
giberson
January 21st, 2002, 06:36 PM
This same AN and DN integration was brought up a month or so ago in the AN Yahoo forum. DN reps responded and indicated they had shown interest for quite some time and attempted to contact AN but had received no responses. In the group DN again indicated interest, Vidal then finally responded through the Yahoo group (which had been critical about the lack of responses by Iambic) and said he would contact DN, but indicated there were no promises. To date, nothing to indicate this has gone any further. Thus, would be cool to have the integration, but don't count on it!
ranbarton
August 1st, 2002, 12:47 PM
I would _love_ to see Iambic embrace the synergy here, and work with Natara for their mutual benit, and ours. I hate to see this good idea wither away.
kevinwoo
November 5th, 2002, 07:04 AM
An old thread... but still rings true. I would love to see "Journal Entry" menu selection launch DayNotez, as well as clicking on contact name on DayNotez launching Agendus. While "Daily Journal" feature is okay in Agendus, DayNotez is an incredible and indispensable tool for me, just as Agendus is.
ranbarton
June 13th, 2005, 11:49 AM
I realize this thread is years old, but I couldn't help saying the potential is as strong as ever to enable these twp great programs to build off of each others' strengths.
I would have used this feature every day for the last three years if it were there. I really like how LifeBalance logs its completed to dos into DayNotez - that's exactly the sort of thing that would be handy with Agendus.
Ran
michael
June 13th, 2005, 12:56 PM
I realize this thread is years old, but I couldn't help saying the potential is as strong as ever to enable these twp great programs to build off of each others' strengths.
I would have used this feature every day for the last three years if it were there. I really like how LifeBalance logs its completed to dos into DayNotez - that's exactly the sort of thing that would be handy with Agendus.
Ran
I completely agree. Maybe iambic needs to consider "Partnering" with Natura!
Zano2004
June 13th, 2005, 02:37 PM
I've used DayNotez for years. DayNotez is by the same folks who do Bonsai, which I also use. How would such intergration square with StandardTime? If Journal could be improved enough, DayNotez would not be needed.
michael
June 13th, 2005, 08:03 PM
....If Journal could be improved enough, DayNotez would not be needed.
Agreed. That would be great, but I've seen no indication that the Agendus Journal is being considered for improvements though.
Zano2004
June 13th, 2005, 08:30 PM
Agreed. That would be great, but I've seen no indication that the Agendus Journal is being considered for improvements though.
Michael;
I'm no programer, but it seems to me that it would be pretty simple to add the hook (optional mind you) that would jump to Daynotez, but what about the return to Agendus?
p.s. don't you just love it when someone answers his own question? Obviously Iambic would have to get that much help from Natara.
michael
June 14th, 2005, 06:53 AM
Michael;
I'm no programer, but it seems to me that it would be pretty simple to add the hook (optional mind you) that would jump to Daynotez, but what about the return to Agendus?
p.s. don't you just love it when someone answers his own question? Obviously Iambic would have to get that much help from Natara.
I can't answer your question, but I do know it's possible, because Mapopolis has a return to Agendus command after to map a contact's address.
ranbarton
June 14th, 2005, 09:20 AM
Just to offer an example, LifeBalance inserts completed todo's into your DayNotez journal (products from two independent developers) without ever leaving LifeBalance. Then, when you do decide to go into DayNotez, the completed todos are there, complete with time stamps.
It's very elegant, and permits each program to focus on what it does best.
Ran
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