Propel Crashing

[thedom]

I am very happy with Iambic Agendus and Mail yet I've been using Zlauncher.

I've given Propel a try on my Treo 650 and now on a 755p - it still crashes my phone causing reset loops. What is the problem?

d_tassone AT yahoo DOT com

[Allibama]

When does the crash occur? Does Propel start, or do you crash when you try to launch an app from within it?

[thedom]

Immediately after installing it, the Treo crashes...again and again.

dt

[Allibama]

Try downloading it again. You might have gotten a corrupted copy.

[thedom]

Thanks,

Been there and done that...I've been tinkering with Propel for months on my 650 and now the tradition continues.

I usually try it when they email me with an update. Still not stable enough for me...I can't afford to have my phone crashing.


Domenico

[Allibama]

You might want to submit a trouble ticket on this. I use the I8 version and it is one of the most stable apps I own.

[Confused Vorlon]

could you give any more info on the crash? particulatly, what is the error message?

(dial #*377 after a reset to get the error)

the most common problem is that propel crashes when it encounters corruption on the sd card. If propel works fine when you eject the sd card, then this is probably the issue.

[thedom]

The 755p uses a microSD so this was happening on the regular SD. Plus,this reset loop doesn't give me much time to

I will try running without the SD card but I have tried multiple cards over the months.

Is that a sequence entered into the dialpad? Looks like it tries to call out.

thx,

dt

[Confused Vorlon]

micro sd / sd are all the same to the OS!

re the loop - to escape, do the following:

Hold the up key on your Palm and keep holding it until you have escaped
When the palm briefly lights up its screen between resets, start your own reset manually.
This is normally done by sticking something like a paperclip in a hole in the back ot the device. (on the Treo650 - the stylus goes in the hole under the battery cover)
On the Treo650, you must wait until the grey palm logo appears before starting the reset (not the orange Palm logo which re-installs the ROM). To make things more complex on the 650, you sometimes have to wait until about a second after the grey logo appears, but not so long that another reset happens...
Keep holding the up key

The device will reset one last time, then recover. It hasn't sent a notification to any application about the reset, so apps won't have reset their alarms, or started any work they do in the background. When you find the reset-culprit, you should do a final normal reset to let them initialise.


re the dialing - yes, you dial as if to dial a number. It will give you the log (if any) of the last reset.

[bronwyn]

I am trying to use it on a T5. during the initial "list building" it crashes the palm..with error "memorymanager.c,line:3877, invalid chunk ptr"..but works well when i eject sd card. what should I look for on the cardto deal withand fix this.
thanks
b

[Confused Vorlon]

I am trying to use it on a T5. during the initial "list building" it crashes the palm..with error "memorymanager.c,line:3877, invalid chunk ptr"..but works well when i eject sd card. what should I look for on the cardto deal withand fix this.
thanks
b

ok - assuming you have windows and a card reader, the easiest way is the following:

put your sd card in a card reader
it should appear as a drive in windows explorer (the file manager)
right click and select properties
tap on tools, then run 'Error Checking - Check Now'

I'll be interested to hear the results. Anything I can learn about how to handle troublesome sd cards will be much appreciated.


Propel should also record where it had got to in scanning the directory, and show you that when you re-launch. That may be helpful as it may point to the troublesome directory. Again - I'd be interested to see what you get.

[thedom]

I was able to record one error through a utility called "Crash"

Form68K.c,Line:1771,No form event handler

is logged as the detail
dt

[bronwyn]

ok - assuming you have windows and a card reader, the easiest way is the following:


put your sd card in a card reader
it should appear as a drive in windows explorer (the file manager)
right click and select properties
tap on tools, then run 'Error Checking - Check Now'

I'll be interested to hear the results. Anything I can learn about how to handle troublesome sd cards will be much appreciated.


Propel should also record where it had got to in scanning the directory, and show you that when you re-launch. That may be helpful as it may point to the troublesome directory. Again - I'd be interested to see what you get.


Thanks, did that and no problem files identified on either internal or sd card... so I am at a loss. seems, at this stage to be fine, if I eject the sd card before indexin. Will play around with it over the next week and see if I can sort this out.. it looks like a great app.. if it doesn't crash the whole show.
thanks again

[Confused Vorlon]

crash is great for logging errors. reset doctor will also do the job.

one other thing I can think of would be if you just have loads of stuff that propel is trying to index and not enough memory. -you should get a helpful error message in that case.

[bronwyn]

thanks am downloading crash and will see. .. and yes, my SD card is choc a block (relatively speaking) of references and maybe it just takes a while. does it get a bit more done eACH TIME I TRY IT..?
.JUST A thought.. that way, with a heap of crashes it could eventually get there...?
will let you know
b

[Confused Vorlon]

thanks am downloading crash and will see. .. and yes, my SD card is choc a block (relatively speaking) of references and maybe it just takes a while. does it get a bit more done eACH TIME I TRY IT..?
.JUST A thought.. that way, with a heap of crashes it could eventually get there...?
will let you know
b

I'm afraid it doesn't work that way. The card is scanned completely whenever you do a scan.

the background 'incremental update' scans apps on the sd card - but only those.